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Farallon Mining Ltd
Symbol FAN
Shares Issued 475,879,417
Close 2010-11-26 C$ 0.78
Market Cap C$ 371,185,945
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Farallon countersued by Stockhouse poster "campokid"

2010-11-29 15:30 ET - Street Wire

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by Mike Caswell

David St. Eloi, the Australian poker player facing a defamation lawsuit from Farallon Mining Ltd., has filed a countersuit against the company. He claims, among other things, that Farallon's suit has interfered with his ability to earn a living, as he can no longer bluff other players at the poker table. He also says that the case should be dismissed, as Farallon has a history of using lawsuits to silence those who criticize the company.

Farallon and its president, Dick Whittington, are suing Mr. St. Eloi for 32 posts on Stockhouse. The posts stated that the company was "the biggest scam since bre-x," and they referred to Mr. Whittington as "tricky dicky."

While Farallon launched the case on Sept. 1, 2009, Mr. St. Eloi did not participate until the company won a default judgment against him on Jan. 5, 2010. He appeared before a judge in Vancouver in May and successfully had the default overturned. He then filed a statement of defence, in which he denied any wrongdoing, and said that he relied on factual information in writing his posts.

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what a joke and waste of time

Posted by bored at 2010-11-29 15:57

Long overdue that a public type in Canada challenges the ongoing and disgusting practice of "libel chill" by ridiculous public Cos with MUCH to hide and none have been as eager to litigate to silence its' critics than the FanTards.

EVERY much touted libel judgement in Canada on internet posters has been the default variety and a challenge to the Supreme Court level has been overdue for almost a year since the top court expanded the libel defense. Hope Farallon shareholders are ready to pay for that.

Now we have an action that WILL cost high 6 figures to FAN stakeholders and if the highly conflicted director/litigator loses its a million bucks down the tubes for no reason at all. Thats a management that speaks very loud volumes for itself through the bottom line.

http://pennystockjournal.blogspot.com/

St Elias Mines, a $ 220m capped VSE wonder with nada drill permit on flagship property even, has made threats 3 times against internet posters, the latest a few months ago. Pfffft.

http://steliasmines.blogspot.com/

Posted by Freakin Beautiful at 2010-11-29 16:36

It's too bad Farallon didn't spend as much time and effort in increasing SH equity as they have chasing these loons across three Continents.

Posted by R.Ipped Off Again at 2010-11-29 16:52

Perhaps Stockwatch would like to review some of the actual Mexican court documents for themselves ? Some very interesting details in some of the submissions.

Might prove to be a good "backgrounder" if they're going to continue covering this story.

Everyone knows how squeaky clean the Mexican judicial system is, right ?

Come on Stockwatch, do your digging, like you did with the Crystallex case

There may still be some "dirt under the rug" here

;-)

Posted by knowsabit at 2010-11-29 16:55

FAN used to trade at $23, now its a lowly $0.78. You would think management has better things to do than chase chat forum posters.

Posted by eroding shareholder value at 2010-11-29 19:01

FAN has turned out to be a horrible investment for early shareholders who have suffered massive dilution over the years. Management has obviously failed to create any ROI for these people. It makes you wonder what's the point of these Howe Street deals where only insiders benefit. I'm surprised FAN's management haven't been sued for breach of fiduciary duty the way they've run this company into the ground. $23 to $0.78 is an atrocious act incompetence.

Posted by Expenses at 2010-11-29 20:09

Talk about twisted priorities! LOL

Posted by SMALL MAN'S SYNDROME at 2010-11-29 22:20

A once flying-high company down into the pennies, and *this* is their priority. Best worth noting, and stay away from this kind of investment. Probably a better idea to list the directors and officers of this company and tape them to your computer - as any other deal they are involved in may be suspect. But that is just my opinion.

Posted by Anomander Rake at 2010-11-30 10:04

More FAN dilution is coming, its looks like an excellent short. imo the market will be flooded with new paper. History repeats itself.

Posted by Shares Issued 475,879,417 at 2010-11-30 11:34

Companys that focus on what the morons on the stock chatlines say, show they are more interested in penny promotion, than they are at building true economic value. What a waste of time.

Posted by Du-rag at 2010-11-30 13:52

I lost some money on FAN. I thought it was a big mistake of their's to pre-sell all their silver. I sold out after this. Regardless of the problems of the Property's ownership history, Farallon is going to call Mr. St. Eloi's bluff and he's going to lose. Bottom line - you gotta put your money where your mouth is, especially if you're a poker player.

Posted by tenpan at 2010-11-30 17:48

LOL. This is so funny. FAN chasing some poster on stockhouse. I would clean house and get a new team to run this show. Damm!!!!!!!

Posted by The Caz at 2010-12-01 00:48

TIME OUT - “Dear Fellow Investors,” By Tracy Johnson, Canada-iNvest.com

“I would like to start off by saying that any CEO of a Public Company would give his right arm to have a loyal and informed shareholder base such as Plaintree has. We have had many a good chuckle over your chat line comments regarding your thoughts on Taurus.” — David Watson, CEO Plaintree Systems , August 31, 2000.

Thursday might have been the day that financial message boards finally got taken seriously. Many, more conservative investors would expire at the thought, but it was the day that the CEO of Plaintree Systems (LAN) , the most actively traded stock on the TSE last Monday, went to a message board to talk to (or appease) its investors.

Plaintree has received a burst of attention in recent weeks, after it announced a change in business plan from local area networks to wireless optical networking. After it spiked on the TSE, it started to attract a lot of attention on the stockhouse.ca message boards. Then last Wednesday, Taurus Capital released a research report that reputedly questioned the valuation of Plaintree. The stock price suffered either from that or profit taking, but immediately after Watson posted a response to report, volume jumped and the price ticked up about 10%.

Do financial message boards move stocks? Is there any question? Let’s take a look at some recent examples. A trio in Massachusetts is accused of posting thousands of negative messages about two U.S. biotechnology companies. During the bashing period, the stock price in one of the companies dropped from $35 to $21.

Even the big boys aren’t safe. Last fall, bankruptcy rumours were swirling about New York-based investment bank Lehman Brothers. The rumours didn’t turn out to be true, but were widespread enough that Richard Fuld, Lehman’s chairman had to hit the media circuit to discourage the talk. Where did it all start? The company said that at the very least the message boards helped spread the gossip.

On the bright side though, there’s no place to access investors quite as democratically as a message board. In less than 24 hours, David Watson’s open letter had been viewed more than a thousand times. And that’s why he posted it there. “It seemed a logical way to get our message out. We will only do this in situations where it’s critical that we get news to the investment community in a less formal manner than a press release.”

So there’s no questioning their power, but it’s not as certain that posters can influence stock on a daily basis. Alan Poole is a long time, active message board guru of sorts. He runs www.ForumWatch.com, a site that keeps track of all things message board. He says there’s no question that posters can move the market. “Yes they can, but there are certain conditions that need to be met. The stock needs to be in flux with a large audience watching the board.”

“There again, the formula does not always dictate that the audience has to be massive. Smaller groups will do if they have enough buying power.”

John Wood, the editor of Canada Stockwatch, a site that hosts some message boards forums, agrees with Poole. “I think there’s plenty of evidence that if you populate enough chat rooms with enough nonsense, there’s a never-ending supply of suckers that will spend some money. It’s just a different way of touting stocks. It’s been going on via the phone in boiler rooms since time began, but its plenty more efficient, you can reach many, many more people. Even if the sucker rate is less than half a per cent, it’s still highly efficient.”

So it’s a case of investor-beware. Poole says there are huge benefits to keeping track of messages, but he has some advice. “The majority of the time, you just have to make sure there's no wool over your eyes. Read quickly and scan for the points that really interest you. It is just a matter of cross referencing them with the actual security commission filings or going directly to the company itself. Always verify all your findings with the company. You can even find information about companies on message boards you can find no where else, like who the CEO golfs with or who has sued the company.”

Woods has a slightly more cynical, but valid point about the benefit of the chat boards. “ I think there’s quite a few benefits. One thing is that it gives the investor insight into the kind of people who are boosting the stock. In the short term anything is possible, but in the longer term that sort of harebrained jabber really can serve as a wonderful warning to investors. If these are the sort of investors that are keeping the price of this thing up, when it’s obvious that it’s a promotion, you don’t want to be the last one holding the bag.”

Posted by TheStreet at 2010-12-01 13:49

I see another B.C. based Jr. is also suing for Bullboard defamation- St. Elias Mines. Is it co-incidence that they work out of the same building as Farallon or does Fan Management feel that there is money to be made by offering consulting advise on how to sue for fun and profit(although I highly doubt if any judgement awards will ever be collected).

One of the street rumors in Van is that Farallon will soon team up with their room mates (SLI) and add needed cash and clout to their Peru gold play with the soon acquired take-over money from Nyrstar.

Posted by R.Arnold at 2010-12-01 15:30

Farallon is one stock to avoid. Management has clearly demonstrated they don't care about shareholders, they should be ashamed of themselves for the way this stock has performed since the late 1990's. What's the point in buying a stock if its in a steady long term downtrend?

Posted by Brad at 2010-12-02 01:20

Spending millions chasing a guy who, while perhaps not 100% accurate, isn't that far off the mark from what looks like the truth. Where is the "safe harbor" protection for citizens? Companies get away spewing rank bullchit, conspire with brokers and large institutions to grossly manipulate company shares all day long. Look at the run up before many "hot" plays go raise some equity. Or look at the steep drop just before "dogs" try and raise cash - gross manipulation by insiders and yet is never prosecuted.

Where are shareholder's rights being protected from the thieves, er, "management" that infest the stock market??? By the OSX? Laughable. The SEC prosecutes more scumbags from Canada in a month than Canada does in a decade.

Posted by Eloi is being railroaded at 2010-12-05 12:18

"The SEC prosecutes more scumbags from Canada in a month than Canada does in a decade"

Well said. Now we all know why the yanks threw the crown out of the US, they knew the royals wanted to get their grubby little hands on the family jewels.

Posted by TheStreet at 2010-12-06 00:52


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