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Well, at least ONE part of this story matches Tony's recorded teachings! He explains in his audio program "Get The Edge", that he saw a beautiful woman across the room at his Hawaii seminar, and he walked right up to her and told her how beautiful she was, and fell in love at first site with her. Tony says, and I quote from this audio program... "I looked up, and I met eye contact with a woman, I COULD NOT BREAK IT...I just walked straight across the room, LOOKED IN HER EYES and said, YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL...I GOT HER SOUL". (that's pretty extreme to walk right up to a married woman and tell her how beautiful she is and to become One with her Soul...at first site!) Then he asked her name and she said her name was "Sage".
So it seems she did use the name "Sage" when she was out of town!!!
;-) Then he says someone saw them together and TOOK A PICTURE OF THEM TOGETHER. Hmmm. Is he trying to explain why that photo exists of him with Sage in Hawaii? He goes onto to say in this recording he did not start dating Sage until 6 months later, which does not match up with what is being put forward by the defence in this case. You can hear this whole story on his audio program "Get The Edge".
Get the Edge - Day 3 - Disc 2 - Power of Relationships
Track 08 - A Single Person's Marketing Plan I wonder if the statements he has made in "Get The Edge" about meeting Sage will be part of this trial?
It sounds to me like Mr Lee did a very diligent job, and contacted all sides of the story, and made good records, and tape recordings of his interviews. Mr. Zacklin sounds like a very intelligent man. I also think it is a "brainwashing thing" by the sounds of it.
And what a classless thing for Robbins to do, to give another man's kids $50 and send them away with your limousine driver. That reminds me. When i grew up, my parents used to give us kids $5 and send us to the pool on some weekend afternoons, to get us out of the house, so they could have sex presumably!
I wonder, did Robbins send ALL of the kids out of the house with the limousine driver?
Hmmm... Posted by
Redacted Tony fan
@ 2005-07-11 22:17
The bun in the oven (drumroll and a pregnant pause) just may have been this court case. Whilst this case's gestation period is a lot longer than the normal nine months, it certainly could (if successful) negate the lack of a suitable dowry. In certain cultures, the bride (through her family) is expected to contribute a sizable dowry to the groom. While a toothsome smile is winning, it is not exactly bankable. A change of name to Sage (a profoundly wise person, or else an ancient traditionally regarded as the wisest of those still extant) might do a bit for the marketing end of the now-family business, but how do you differentiate between natural growth and Sage-fueled frenzy? You can't!! To satisfy the bean counters (and the curiously uncurious George), you have to show decidedly attributable bottom-line growth. A drumroll and another pregnant pause. A multi-million dollar lawsuit. Tons of for-free coverage (well, on Stockwatch and the Vancouver Sun). (The copyright to this is assigned to Stockwatch, its successors and its lawyers).
We seek Safe Harbor. Posted by
halcrow
@ 2005-07-11 23:12
Isn't it a bit strange that Tony Robbins would walk right up to an attractive young woman who is working at his seminar, (so she is in the position of an employee and Tony is her boss), and "lock eyes" with her and walk right up to her and tell her that she is "so beautiful", and then talk to her for hours at that same seminar? From what I have read, Tony Robbins was still married at the time he met Bonnie at the seminar, and Bonnie Lynch was still married and living with her husband.
I do public speaking myself, and I would never walk up to a young woman who is working at one of my events, and make a pass at her. That is called "sexual harrassment in the workplace". And I am single and not even married! What if the woman you are making a sexual pass at is married? You can get yourself into a lot of trouble! In this case Bonnie was married, and so was Tony, and guess what? They both have gotten themselves into a lot of trouble! I am very disappointed with Tony Robbins conduct in this entire episode. I thought Tony would hold himself to a higher standard and not be so selfish. Right from how he went up to and hit on one of the attractive young women working at his seminar, to his launching all these frivolous lawsuits, and everything else. I am quite familiar with his work, and have attended 2 of his seminars. What he is doing here completely contradicts what he spoke about at those seminars.
And how he met Bonnie also contradicts what he talks about in his programs. Here is a free coaching tip for everyone, including Tony Robbins.... If you are married, then do not go and pick up married women from your workplace! You can get yourself into a whole lot of trouble. It may seem fun at the time, but one day you have to pay the piper, and you might find yourself in court, and have permanently damaged your reputation with the portion of the public who believe in ethical sexual behavior and are opposed to having sex with people outside of your marriage when you are still married, and even if you are "separated". Being separated means you are still married in my book and in God's book. Breaking one of God's laws is a sin. Dr Phil says, "if they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you". Posted by
Public Speaker
@ 2005-07-12 07:55
I have been in Tony Robbins company many times over the last 3 years and I have to say that he is not the sort of guy who just makes passes at pretty girls. I have heard him say things such as that which he said to Sage on first meeting her many times AND to men and women. Not once did he mean it sexually. As a female, I have had plenty of men say things to me which made me uncomfortable - Tony simply does not come across like these men. Tony always comes from his heart and does not need to stoop to lousy chat up lines. He is a big man with a big heart and his comments to people on meeting them are usually big in my experience. Whenever I am in Tony's presence, I see the majority of women around him giving him come-to-bed eyes. He NEVER returns their energy and this is something that I very much admire in him. Although I did not know Tony and Sage at the time they met, I do know people who were close to them and to Tony's ex-wife Becky and they are very clear that Becky and Tony had broken up by then. In my model of the world - seperated is "broken up waiting for the paperwork to be final". If I became seperated from my husband I would not hesitate to enter into a new relationship should the right one come my way. I believe that both of them were completely free at the time they met. Just because their relationships had only recently broken down does not mean that they should hide themselves away from the new opportunities. Most people in this world are simply in the pursuit of love and they are just human. It's a darn shame to pick apart someone's relationship so negatively when they do so much good for so many people. Posted by
Fee
@ 2005-07-23 02:38
Does it matter that I've been through his material or that I've seen a seminar? There is some truth to the defense's story about when they began dating. You know what? I don't care. She was unhappy in her marriage or not, she felt something with Tony and he with her. That happens. It happens at work and it happens in marriages, men pursue married women. People will talk about it. I lost respect for Tony because this lawsuit indicates there is some truth to what the defense is saying. Sage/Bonnie wasn't available when he took her to a broadway play in New York and not "officially separated" from her husband yet. That doesn't matter to me either. What matters is that he got what he wanted. They sure do look happy and in love and reaching for one another. Now what I think or anyone else shouldn't matter to them. Yet Tony is suing the Sun and everyone else for ruining his rep. You cannot control anyone's behvior but you're own, Tony. People will talk, but when you sue them for things that have some truth to it, you come across as someone that is more embarrassed, than he is slandered, for his misgivings. You have a beautiful wife and this is NOW you're soulmate. Thank God I'm not one of your lemmings in cult working for you for free. Posted by
what to say
@ 2005-07-27 00:58
But Tony... I thought you were perfect? Oh, hang on, you still are! its those darn pesky journo's and everybody else that have it all wrong. Sorry, can you please accept my apology. Posted by
Andrew
@ 2005-08-02 01:08
Tony Robbins has turned out to be a HUGE disappointment. Posted by
Former Fan
@ 2006-05-03 17:00
I suggest you try Brian Tracy's material. It's excellent, and he's a man of integrity. Posted by
Victor
@ 2006-05-04 17:56
I just returned from a visit to Namale-Tony Robbins resort. There were 15 couples at the resort along with Tony and his wife "Sage!" At the time of my visit he was taping a infommerical with his wife. Tony passed by the guests at his resort hundreds of time in his golf cart neglecting to even say "HI" or "Thank you for coming to my resort!" In my opinion he is a self-centered, egotistical man. He was all about himself and his taping. If he was so kind and down to earth he would have at least greeted the guests who are making him a TON of money.
The resort was an A+ but I give Mr. Robbins an F for hospitablity. I would NEVER attend one of his phony seminars!!! Posted by
Lillian
@ 2006-08-24 01:08
Lillian - No kidding?! He didn't even say "hello?" I went to one of his UPW seminars a few years ago. I tried to talk to him during the breaks, but I couldn't even get close to him. He was surrounded by "men in black." Posted by
Former Fan
@ 2006-09-05 15:22
I live here in finland and i have to say that I really don't understand You people?? If you are not happy in your relationship and if you find one with whom you've like share your life, is really so bad? I think that Tony and Sage are happy together and that they belong together. Posted by
Powered
@ 2006-10-10 05:32
I do think Tony is a lot of hype, having been to one of his all day seminars and having listened to a lot of his CDs, but he also has a lot of good and intelligent things to say. I think we can all learn something positive from his teachings. Remember, we are ALL fallible, because we are all human. Cut the guy some slack. Posted by
Mike
@ 2006-12-02 18:30
I was really buying into this Tony Robbins crap, getting the newsletters, registering for audio stuff (especially the new Passion series). Good thing I googled Sage Robbins (LOVE the heart over the "I", Sage;(. This is so like the similar fraud that Darren Weeks is...lots of hype, lots of well-planned websites and newsletters, but look out for what lies beneath the surface. Similar to Tony Robbins, Darren Weeks got a big head on his shoulders with his seminars and people begging to "learn" from him. Darren, too, decided the grass was greener with a new hottie who worked at his seminars for free and, likewise took up with her, too. She had a family of two sons and a hubbie, Darren, like Tony, proclaimed that he and his wife were on the outs, already. What a shame that these self-proclaimed "gurus" are feeding this crap of how they live life by the highest standards, yet they conduct themselves in a way that would embarass me if they were my friends or children. Furthermore, what are all of these other high-rollers such as Robert Kiyosake, Trump, Agassi, etc, doing affiliating themselves with these lowlives??? FOR SHAME, TONY AND BONNIE (yes, I said Bonnie...you can change a name, but not the person inside). Posted by
Born to Win
@ 2007-01-26 20:43
"May he who hath not sinned, cast the first stone." That's all I have to say about that situation. Posted by
SuccessfulTonyAlumna
@ 2007-10-10 23:33
Mr. Lynch failed to keep Sage/Bonnie in love with him, and their relationship was so weak that she actually found a greater and more fulfilling relationship with someone else. Plus, she got married when she was only nineteen! Lynch robbed the cradle and should have known better. Simple as that. I'm sure everyone's preference would have been that no one was already involved with other people when they met, but that's life, you know...and Sage and Tony didn't give up. Some of the biggest rewards have the biggest obstacles before them. Why try to fight the fact that she wants to be with someone else? That is pretty embarrassing to make a huge stink over someone who doesn't want to be with you anymore. As Tony would say, "Get a life!" Posted by
SuccessfulTonyAlumna
@ 2007-10-10 23:40
Good grief...you people really need to get a life! Tony Robbins has more honor, intelligence, drive, character, talent,integrity, ability, etc, etc, (his list of good points goes on and on)than anyone can imagine.This man has accomplished so much good and impacted millions of lives for the better. But he IS a human being like the rest of us, and last time I checked, no human being is perfect. But a few of you jealous numb skulls have to go after him because of YOUR interpretation of things that may or may not have happened? Many of you must be the losers that weren't able to cut it in making immprovements in your own lives due to lack of character and brains. Got to a movie, go outside once in a while and get some fresh air, get off your blogs and discover that there really is something else to do in life. Posted by
CJ
@ 2008-02-26 15:19
On the Darren Weeks thing - well yes, Darren maybe did pick up with a storming blonde hottie, but she just went after the money. You are a bit mis-informed however, she didn't have 2 sons and a husband, infact she was a single mom with an older daughter. It is too bad Darren lacked the integrity to keep his thing in his pants, and out of hers. He certainly says we should have integrity, but maybe that's only in business. Anyway, he does mix business with pleasure that's for sure. By the way miss Cindy Storme is dressed up hottie, but not that hot up close and in person, but she's not bad.... Posted by
Informed someone
@ 2008-04-19 01:08
Note to CJ.. you sound like a cult follower. Please note the millions your hero is draining out of the people he is "HELPING". People like you wouldn't even care if a woman went to his event with a past sexual abuse, and got used by the man sexually then cast aside like trash. Tony the big hero saying things to her like "I call you" misleading instead of telling her the truth that he is imperfect and just wanted sex. No, because he has no integrity or courage just money to pay celebrity tabloid lawyers to sycke on a woman to make sure she doesn't go public with his actions and circumstances around it. No you would think he is a helluava guy I'm sure. Taking money from the women, having sex and humiliating her. Nice stuff... real sincere man. Just so you know, no one is jealous of the man. Huge man with a average sized unit? No way!!! Hhahahahhahahahahahahhahah Posted by
BJ
@ 2008-05-17 11:55
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