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While I agree that the HST is probably a good idea, I am so pleased to know that only 35 people showed for their last event. It's about time people stopped tuning in to these Fraser Institute wack-jobs and their fascist propoganda machine. Their work is tantamount to a Fox News broadcast and it actually mkes me skeptical of the HST that they support it, though I think it's a good idea. Posted by
Richard
@ 2009-10-24 18:42
There was a day when I actually thought these quasi-intellectual dopes held some slight relevance. I've grown much from those days of utter stupid ignorance. These clowns SHOULD (but won't) look in the mirror. Pfffft! Posted by
Fraser Institute WhackerDoodles
@ 2009-10-24 20:24
Now that the government has already removed the straw from our brick making process.......they also want us now, to do it while we are naked ........... only an assanine and stupid, Conservative Fraser Institue would find this normal! Posted by
peter
@ 2009-10-25 04:58
Where was Mr. Finlayson born? As a hired hand on the Bush ranch? Posted by
Sam
@ 2009-10-25 05:02
Right now the PST is a deduction by industry in calculating taxable income. Any benefit that BC's extractive industries get through the HST will be passed on to the export customers and buyers of their products so the beneficiaries of the HST will be the Chinese and Japanese customers who dictate to the likes of Teck et al what (benchmark) prices they will pay for products such as BC coal. In the mean time, BC comsumers will bear the full impact of the HST and to compensate for their reduced purchasing power, will demand higher wages from industry. If there is an HST benefit to BC industry and businesses, it will be short lived. For others, such as myself, my competitors in Alberta will enjoy a 7% cost advantage over me. I either have to cut my fees or incorporate in Alberta to compete on an equal footing. Posted by
Cyril
@ 2009-10-25 15:06
What does the federal government get from all this obviously it's not to create harmony or it's a failure out of the starting block... Posted by
RichieBoy
@ 2009-10-26 08:34
The Feds will claim that the HST is more efficient and some Provinces have been able to cut their PST. In BC the PST reduction is only 0.5% while the cost of living due to the HST is expected to increase by 1.5%. Because our economy is export based, the beneficiaries of the supposed decreased costs to business and industry will be the export customers of such products and services. This includes tourists who will get an HST rebate at the border. Posted by
Cyril
@ 2009-10-26 10:38
"Their work is tantamount to a Fox News broadcast..." My goodness! Where would we be without Fox? These guys broke the Acorn story *last year*....while the fringe media decided to ignore it. Fox exposed Van Jones as the radical marxist that he is. Fox exposed Anita Dunne - another marxist. Fox exposed Frank Lloyd - yet *another* marxist who thinks that Hugo Chavez is the end all and be all for 'social democracy'. And now we have Obama the Hesitant taking personal aim at Fox because they (and only they) choose to question his radical and destructive agenda. We would be balls on lucky to have a Fox network up here in Canada. Posted by
Crusader
@ 2009-10-26 11:02
'The following story illustrates the plight of the independent artisan under the new regime. A Berlin locksmith, whom we shall call Herr Z., had a small but long-established shop. His father had owned it before him, and his grandfather before that. He had a modest but very steady trade in the neighborhood, consisting mostly of contracts to keep the locks of apartment houses in order. He had never engaged in politics. 'About two years ago another locksmith, Herr Y., came into the district and opened a shop directly opposite Z.'s. Y. was an old Party member and also belonged to the S.S. He was a regular attendant at Party functions, and many of the neighbors suspected him of being connected with the Gestapo, the dreaded Secret State Police. It was remarkable how suddenly any neighborly gathering would break up when Y. joined it. 'Owing to his being an outsider and to the aversion he aroused in the neighborhood, Y.'s business did not prosper particularly at first. Then, gradually, a change set in, which was brought about in the following way. Each of the apartment houses with which Z. enjoyed a repair contract had a Nazi housewatcher or Blockwalter. These are reliable Party members whose job it is to keep an eye on everyone in their apartment house, or their city block, and to report any person suspected of being a "dangerous element." Y. knew the local Party secretary well and, in due time, denounced Z. as a "dangerous element," constantly criticizing the system and stirring up his customers against it. As a result, the local Party secretary found it necessary "in the interest of the State" to influence the Nazi superintendents to transfer all their repair business to his friend Y.'
That's fascism, folks! [From The Vampire Economy by Gunter Riemann, 1939. For the record, Hr Riemann was a Marxist.] Posted by
Daniel M. Ryan
@ 2009-10-26 12:11
Do these "economic experts" really believe this sophistry they propound? Do they really believe business will pass along the savings realized? I think not. The PST should be abolished to level the playing field since the major beneficiaries are, as Cyril has correctly identified, those foreign nations purchasing our exports. Someone once said that if all the "economists" were laid end-to-end they would not reach a conclusion. I agree. Posted by
N. McKay
@ 2009-10-26 12:54
quote: Someone once said that if all the "economists" were laid end-to-end they would not reach a conclusion. I agree. Peter Schiff is someone who has had it right for three years. Buy gold. Keep your exposure to fiat currency to a minmium. Shun socialism. Shun big government. Posted by
Phat Deano
@ 2009-10-26 13:03
why cant they harmonise the tax and leave things the way they are no 1.6 billion to the provinces no check to the people and stop causing inflation and continue living the way we are living have you seen the prices of car reduced no Posted by
frank ramchuck
@ 2009-10-26 17:24
To me, the Canadian dream is for every family to be able to own their own home. From my point of view, Let’s look ahead to July 1, 2010 On this day, every home owner in B.C. who sells their home (whether new or used) will now have to pay 12% HST on all real estate commissions. Now consider,.........In British Columbia where the cost of housing is literally the highest in all of Canada, you are out with your wife and children looking for a house to buy. You have 2 choices. Both houses are the same size and are on the same size lot. A. The first house is brand spanking new and has a sale price of $550,000. If you buy it, in addition, you will pay $9,000 in Provincial Property Transfer Taxes. As well, with the 12 % HST now in effect, you now will also have to pay an additional $66,000 less, as I understand it, a rebate of $20,000. Therefore your total cost for this new house will be $605,000. B. The second house is a used 5 year old house and has a sale price of $550,000. If you buy it, in addition, you will pay $9,000 in Provincial Property Transfer Taxes. Therefore, your total cost for this used house will be $559,000.
What affect do you think the HST will have on a house buyer’s decision making given these 2 choices? To me, Buyers will flock to buying used homes. That will put upwards pressure on the price of used homes especially in the Vancouver, Victoria and Kelowna areas where most of the population is located.
Now keep in mind that B.C. already has the highest house prices in all of Canada. Perhaps the HST will provide some benefits to other parts of the B.C. business community, but it certainly does put significant further financial barriers in the way of families wanting to buy their new home. I am having trouble seeing how the HST will benefit the consumer in this instance.
Note: There are some that may say that when new house is being built, a developer saves a considerable amount of money due to the new HST savings and that the savings will be passed along to the Buyer of the new home. I am having trouble with this theory. Housing prices are arrived at by supply and demand. Home Owners in general try to sell their homes at the highest prices that the market will bear. I have considerable concern that this HST savings the Seller has might well turn into profit for the Seller and an additional expense for the Buyer. Posted by
John
@ 2009-10-27 03:20
where did the fraser institute get that there will only be a 0.6% increase in 500,000-600,000 houses? i think that number is way out to lunch. Posted by
jimmie
@ 2009-10-27 12:18
I have no choice but to implement this tax. How else am I going to pay for all those upgrades to the infrastructure and inevitable cost overruns that go hand in hand with hosting such a prestigious event as the winter olympics? You people are so ungrateful!
I have to leave some kind of legacy when I leave office don't I? Posted by
Gordon The Grifter
@ 2009-10-27 18:58
This is just another cash grab that this government will implement. When was the last time they did something for the people? Its just another revenue stream, more tax = money out of people's pockets. Way to go idiots, Gud Contry Kanada. Posted by
Mark
@ 2009-10-28 10:08
"To me, the Canadian dream is for every family to be able to own their own home..." Only if every Canadian works hard and works hard under a system that does not over tax production and wealth. Then I am sure a fair amount of *worthy* Canadians will be able to afford to buy into the idea of real estate ownership. The other way might be difficult because - luckily for us - we do not have corrupt organizations like ACORN up here to brow-beat the banks into giving second and third class citizens free money for free houses. Posted by
Phat Man
@ 2009-10-29 11:29
Peter Schiff is a tool Posted by
Bonerjam
@ 2009-10-29 14:32
When a Conservative National government starts proporting any other taxes
in conjunction with the provinces, one must realize completely, like the sunshining in your eyes on a beautiful morning, that our largest trading partner the U.S of A, have just kicked our doormat government out of bed to make the coffee. In reality this is just the appetizer, then both of these vermin entities,
will come back with the full course meal, a new Free Trade Agreement,
totally weighted in favour of the U.S of A......the act of selling Canada, and all of
it's citizens down the river, is a national pastime with this big Federal mental midget leader. Posted by
Randy
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